Dallas Takes the Mic
We’ve got something special to share with you, relatives!
For the next few episodes of All My Relations, we’re handing the mic over to comedian, writer, organizer, and actor Dallas Goldtooth (Mdewakanton Dakota/Diné) for a guest-hosted takeover bringing his voice, humor, and perspective into the conversations we hold here.
Dallas is a good relative and longtime friend of the podcast. You’ve likely seen Dallas Goldtooth in his role as William “Spirit” Knifeman on Reservation Dogs (2021-2023), and many roles since on Seeds (2024),Fallout (2024-2026), and The Last Frontier (2025). His work lives at the intersection of storytelling, environmental justice, and Indigenous rights with a refreshing touch of humor mixed with hard truths.
This guest series is something we’ve been excited about for a while. Dallas brings a different kind of energy into the space, one that feels caring, thoughtful, and at times unexpectedly funny.
These conversations move across lived experience, movement work, leadership, and community care, all rooted in what it means to be in relationship with one another.
Dallas sits down with a powerful lineup of voices:
Mark K. Tilsen (Oglala Lakota) — poet, educator, and organizer from Pine Ridge, whose work is deeply connected to resistance and liberation movements. He joins Dallas for the first episode of the series.
Ashley LaMont (Oglala & Sicangu Lakota) — working at the forefront of land back and sovereignty movements with Honor the Earth.
Theresa Sheldon (Tulalip Tribes) — serving on the Tulalip Tribes Board of Directors, bringing insight into leadership and governance at the tribal level.
Sedelta Oosahwee (Mandan, Hidatsa, Arikara, Cherokee) — leading national work in education policy and advancing equity for Native students.
Thosh Collins (O’Odham & Osage) — photographer, health educator, and co-founder of Well For Culture, sharing teachings on Indigenous wellness through the Seven Circles framework.
And in a couple of especially meaningful conversations, Dallas sits down with his own family—his mother, Hope Ann Two Hearts, and his sister, Georgina Drapeau—bringing a personal layer to this series that we’re honored to share with you.
As always, our intention remains the same: to hold space for conversations that help us better understand what it means to be in good relation with each other, with our communities, and with the world around us.
The first episode drops soon.
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A/V Production& Video Edit by Francisco “Pancho” Sánchez
Music by Mato Wayuhi
Produced by Matika Wilbur
Episode Artwork by Kitana Marie Connelly
Social Media by Mandy Yeahpau
Episode Transcript:
Welcome back to another episode of All My Relations. I'm super happy to be here.
I'm really excited for what we're going to talk about today. I'm the co-host of this podcast.
I'm Tamara Slane, Matika's co-host. I'm from Lemmy Nation. And we're joined by…
Hi, everyone. I am Dallas Goldtooth. I am a father, a husband, an actor,
writer, and a rabble rouser, I guess. I'm not sure. What am I saying? And a podcaster? Oh, and I…I'm a podcaster. And Dallas is doing something really exciting with us. He's going to do a little
podcast takeover.
We want to make more episodes. And to do so, we need relatives like Dallas here,
good old sacred manhood, Uncle Dallas, to bring his sacred manhood onto this podcast for a podcast takeover. Thank you for bringing all your sacrality to us. So sacred. That's like the most epic buildup. That sounds very illicit. That was very, the way you worded that, it kind of made me feel a little uncomfortable here. But yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited to be coming here into this space with my sacred manhood as Matika so eloquently puts.
If you remember the last time you talked about seeing your sacred manhood in the bathroom.
I didn't say that, but it was, like, obviously insinuated. We fucked it in the mirror, I mean.
No, I didn't say anything about the visuals. You were providing visuals for something that was
implied.
You're getting me in trouble right out the gate. Oh, my God. On the podcast, he's going to host four episodes. Maybe, perhaps. I don't know. I know you're a comedian, and you're an actor, and I like watching you on television. It's really cool. But... I will always and forever in my mind think of you from like our time together at Standing Rock. Moccasins on the ground. Yeah. I'm interested in that part of the work that you do and that being public and available to our audience because we need community organizers now more than ever. I think because there's so little Indigenous-led journalism and there's so few Native celebrities, you know. We have this collective responsibility.
We being that All My Relations has a very large audience. We have a lot of loyal listeners.
We're one of the mainstays in Indigenous podcasting. And you are our Michael Jackson.
I mean, we don't have Native celebrities, right? Who do we have that haven't fallen?
Chief Iron Eyes, Cody. um Buffy St. Marie uh just right good quality folks you know good quality Native American people like Buffy St. Marie oh wait stop don't say it again what you're as Native famous as it comes yeah I'm like And with that, you already know, with that comes great power, you know, and great responsibility.
That's a traditional Spider-Man story, by the way. Thank you for that.
I think it's interesting to have a man present on our podcast. Are you afraid of turning folks off?
There are justifiable reasons why folks are reluctant, would be reluctant to listen to me.
Almost all of us have been harmed. I'm speaking us as Native people, been harmed by Native men.
We as men have been harmed by Native men. And I also acknowledge that I haven't been the perfect Indigenous feminist male. I really like to like... explore that in some way of like how do we how have we created these these identities and how do we actually actively choose to reject some for the benefit of all of us the danger is always putting folks on a pedestal because there's always the potential of a fall right but i think that we have to constantly acknowledge that we can't do this alone we can't build community alone we need men we need women we need relatives who are in the middle or all ends of the spectrum to build up our next generation. I do hear what you're saying, Dallas. You don't want to be put in a position to not be able to live out your human characteristics. And I feel that we've taken a lot of criticism many times and it's affected me deeply and personally for the loud ass things that I've said on this podcast.
You know, I mean, it's like you're opening yourself up for judgment when you are going to say
anything out loud. Yes. And we need it. Like we need collective liberation.
We're living in a time where we're under attack or we've always resisted. Yes. But we're in a very particular time. with fascism that we are like, maybe it would be a really good time to organize. And I think you're an organizer. Thank you. And that's exciting. Yay. Yay.
I am super grateful again, as I said, to take all my relations on the road with me exploring a wide
variety of topics. I have no idea what they are right now, but they're exciting. They're enticing.
And they're very exciting.
Well, not to worry because we've made a montage so you can preview what's to come.
Check it out. The thing about Thosh, and I'm going to put you on the spot right here, is I feel
like you have two personas. You have the camera persona and you have the off-camera persona.
I want the off-camera persona here because I noticed I do this too. I'm calling myself out there.
We get kind of chiefy. Yeah, we chief it up a little bit. We chief it up a little bit and then we
start using big words. make it sound more edumacated in that case we got to switch places and so that way they can see my missing tooth they can show them extra res dude i never noticed that you are missing a tooth look at that to be honest man in the early days of instagram you were like the famous indian i followed and over time i saw an evolution of you really getting into wellness.
If you look back, what were those things that allowed the people to be well? And it's like
foodways, right? It's like spiritual connection to food, it's sleep, you know, recovery and all
that ceremony, movement, you know, sacred space, like our homes, sites on the land,
and then our kinship systems and then our communities. So that's how we quickly outlined Seven Circles and we started doing our work.
So Sedelta, we've known each other for a long time. Folks know me through 1491s,
long history, comedy group we started. But actually, so Delta was very much present in the very
beginnings of 1491s. In a way, a fifth member.
Folks don't know this. 1491s, we filmed. crap load of videos that never got uploaded in the vault
they're in the vault forever hopefully forever and where that vault is we have no idea of a huska
tulsa somewhere yeah down in a gray horse in a trailer somewhere but uh we filmed a mascot video was your simple your sister did she make she made this massive paper mache mascot head and it was like very stereotypical you know the nose big eyebrows bushy and kind of looked angry super angry say angry indian it was yeah But I think I have a picture of you wearing. No, I have a picture of you wearing it. But I'm sitting next to it being ridiculous, equally probably offensive. So I was like, oh, let's just make this go away forever. We kept it as collateral just in case we got really high up into the administration. We could just drop it,
just kind of kill the career. Thankfully, some of those videos that we filmed has not seen the
public. Yeah, I think we'd all have a different story maybe. No, they weren't that bad.
You are Lakota. I'm Dakota. We're the same peoples, different neighborhoods. Our people have been resisting, actively resisting settler expansion for a long, long time.
For my communities, the Dakota communities, we would go back to 1862. We went to war against the Americans. It was actually what led to a lot of our people being expelled from Minnesota. And to now, we live in a state in Minnesota that I'm really, really, really freaking proud. that it is a very diverse state.
This brings up an interesting point to me. I want to hear your thoughts on it. It's a response to a
comment that I see sometimes from within Indian country is, why should we care about this?
Why should Indian country fight ICE or care about this moment? That's a good question because it's possible that Indian country will be punished for its resistance.
Indian country should fight against ICE. Because the exact same mechanisms that they're creating now are going to target us. And right now they still, they currently are targeting us. If this was just about deportation, they would not be building detention centers all across America and buying up warehouse spaces and creating an additional largest prison system in the world.
And let's just cut through the bullshit. ICE is our enemy and we are warriors and it is our duty to
fight them. It honors your ancestors. We are the original people of the land. has the original
people of the land, we give legitimacy to the resistance and leadership to it.
That's our role as Indigenous people.
I'm Teresa Sheldon. So I serve as the Secretary of the Tulalip Tribes. But if you talk about the
core work, you have to really look at AT&I. So Affiliate Tribes of Northwest Indians.
Represents tribes. What is their 12 BIA regions, right? And then those 12 BIA regions all go to
NCAI. So our local one is AT&I. And of that leadership, Tulalip Tribe's Sebastian Williams was
actually one of the founding fathers of that organization. And I like to say founding fathers
because that's so... Because that's what we're doing, right? We're taking, like, colonized systems
and trying to make them fit us. So any Native person who's like, I ain't into politics, I ain't got
time for that, blah, blah, blah, you're a political class of people. Like, you are sovereign. You
are born as a citizen of your nation. If you believe in the core of your sovereignty, meaning the
right to control your own body, your own mind, your own spirit, your own teachings,
your education, your food, your water, all of these things, then the power absolutely comes.
And so there's no asking. I'm not going to a mother, may I? I'm doing.
And then if something doesn't work out, I might apologize. I might not. I'm just going to keep
going because I'm sovereign. And so you have to act it and be it, right? And so what do they always say, our elders? It's a muscle. If you're not flexing it, you're not doing it.
Today, today, today, I'm excited for this conversation because we're going to be talking with a good friend of mine, Ashley Lamont. We're going to be talking about organizing. activism building movements i was super intimidated by you because you showed up you had the dark shades on you're giving like strong vibrant anti-energy like don't fuck with me but i'm here for the people kind of vibe you and that's that's that's your vibe that's what you gave off and i i loved it we're also going to be talking about data centers generative ai You know, what are we doing, man?
What are we doing? Human beings are the product with generative AI. When something is free, you are the product. ChatGPT and these different forms of generative AI, they have so much access to our data and our chats. Like when we're like going into these chats, like we're actually consenting to give them all of our data. We do know what they're using it for. The data centers and generative AI, like this whole industry is being used for surveillance and to exact a genocide, in Palestine and other indigenous communities.
One of the reasons I brought Georgina is because my mom was really nervous and she was like... I don't look nervous. I'm a little nervous. Oh my God, you were so... You were...
I don't think she was nervous. I just think she just didn't want to... I don't know. She's like,
why do they want to talk to me? Well, yeah.
What the hell's wrong with them? They want to talk to me. Don't they know anybody?
So we ended up moving to your dad's residence, Danae, and we moved down there, and it was total culture shock for me because I was a city girl.
I was used to cussing at people in the car. I was used to being a big bully on the road,
all that stuff, but up there. A big bully on the road? Yeah. What does that mean?
Well, figure it out. I was just like, I'm going here and you're in my way and honking the horn and
get the fuck out of the way, you know, that kind of driver. Even with the ambulances,
could you stop now with the ambulances? And you'll see it now with some of our women.
They're angry, angry Indian women. But there's so much that happened to them that made them that way. But there's ways to heal from that.
And so what I've done in our community is I gather women. We had one weekend with women from all different tribes, not just Minnesota, and we were called Sisters of Spirit. And in that was a time for talking about our issues and helping each other heal. And that just lasted two days,
but it made a really big impact. I remember that. I was in middle school or early high school.
You formed the group. We'd go to all these conferences, powwow ceremonies, but it was actually my first earliest memory of convening of Indigenous women. You pulled that together.
Shit like that, you know? I want to talk some smack. I want to deliver some tea. And I want you to feel like you are a part of a juicy conversation of indigeneity. I want to talk about how are we
organizing in a space that's for collective liberation, how are we organizing spaces and building
nations and communities that's for all peoples. on our own terms.
So like, I want to explore that. That's one of the things, if you're interested in that, you can
check me out on all my relations podcasts on the Patreon as well. If you want to see the full
videos at any given point. And we will keep it tight. And we will keep it tight. And interesting.
And moist.
And well moisturized. Well, thank you relatives. That's all we have for today.
And with that. This mic is mine now see you guys soon.
